Nicholas Dettinger:Good morning, everybody. It’s Nicholas Dettingerback on the don’t work out, just play podcasts. Today is the first podcastwe’re starting off by interviewing _Ashletix_,who is an upcoming Instagram online personal trainer. She’s crafted her own online,personal training business during the COVID pandemic. And now we’re going to explorehow she’s traveled the world, the fitness trends she’s seenand how she has carved her own health industry nichethrough her own path and what nuggets of information thatshe’s brought along the way._Ashletix_: havingme on Nicholas. I’m really excited to bechatting to you today and congratulations on thelaunch of your podcast. That’s really awesome. so yeah, _Ashletix_ is, abit of a new venture for me. I have a pretty significantbackground in gymnastics and athletics and acrobatics. And obviously withthe whole pandemic and everything, that’s causeda lot of, quietness in the entertainment industry. So for me, that was a chanceto delve into a different passion of mine, which ispersonal training, health, fitness, and wellness, andjust helping people with their fitness goals, especiallythroughout the pandemics. I figured there’s nobetter time to kick off a second venture then whenthe world is in limbo. and my main, industry ofentertainment is having a bit of a snooze right now. yeah, _Ashletix_is a platform _Ashletix_: that I foundedand the purpose of it is to basically act as a resourcefor people to better their relationships, to health,fitness, and wellness, and to provide a bit of a twiston they’re coming from an acrobatic background and,having done a lot of travel.So just bringing a bitof fun and play like you do as well into, thegeneral working out world. Nicholas Dettinger:yeah, I really liked the Instagram posts where youwere doing, like handstand pushups off jungle gyms. That’s where Iwas like, Oh wow. Don’t mess with her. She can probably kick my ass. _Ashletix_: I love when peoplehave their different reactions to me doing crazy thingson playground equipment. a lot of people look atme like I’m a circus freak to begin with, which I am. but then slowly there, thecuriosity builds up for them to come over and ask andI’m like, it’s just, people want something different. everyone’s used to using theequipment in the same way. So why not go back to yourroots of being a child and get a bit upside downand have a bit more fun on the playground equipment? yeah, and it’s cool to beable to share that now, obviously with social media,you can share to a large scale audience very quickly. So it’s nice to be able tothrow a couple of handstands in there every now and then Nicholas Dettinger:the impressions were pretty good on it.I could see that for sure. The reach was good. I think, the onlinespace really likes that type of training. But even comparing itto what you might see in like a traditional gym. I love that type of aquote unquote functional training, because it reallyshows how you actually know how to use your body. It just doesn’tlook good right. To the _Ashletix_: surface. Yeah, absolutely. I think that’s somethingthat you have a big focus on in your work as wellas functional movement. we all know there’s a lotof people that go to the gym and target specific muscleswith specific exercises, but it’s not functionalat the end of the day. just going and doing awhole bunch of bicep curls. That’s great. You’ll have reallystrong biceps. But, when you put that ina real life environment, lifting a child or liftingsomething super heavy, you’re not just using yourbiceps, it’s your whole body.For me, I feel like I gotreally lucky coming from a gymnastics background, whichis inherently using the whole body to begin with. and I wouldn’t haveit any other way. Like of course thereare days where I train. Specific target muscles. And I want an exercisethat just works one region. but at the end of the day,you want to be conditioning your body for everyday life. So that’s functional movementat the end of the day. Nicholas Dettinger: Actually,one of the videos I posted on the channel was how. just taking a heavymetal chair is a really great way to do it. twist around toactually functionally build your quadratus. Lumborum your, hamstrings notyour hamstrings, your internal and external obliques, becauseit’s sad to say, a powerlifter who can lift 500 pounds, butthen goes to pick up a child or pick up some Legos mightbe able to throw on his back.And that’s somethingthat I really did want to come into cross with. _Ashletix_: Yeah, absolutely. And I really I have somuch respect for people that understand and bridgethat gap, because a lot of people it’s just awareness,and there’s nothing wrong with targeting specificmuscles or just doing there, those exercises. They’re great. But what you really want to bedoing is working for longevity and preventing injuries. the last thing you wantus to say, I’m really fit. And I’m really strong. And I go to the gym four timesa week and I work out these muscles and then you sneezeand you put your back out, so you really want to be trainingfor functional movement. And, Definitely goingto be checking out that video with the chair. I also watched one of yourvideos recently, where it was the stretching guide,complete body stretching guide for, especially fora lot of people that sit at their desk all day. And you were targeting, thefascia specifically, and you had four different stretchesand just this week I’ve been incorporating thoseinto my morning routines.So Thank you for that Nicholas Dettinger: You _Ashletix_: can Nicholas Dettinger: alsothink a good life fitness, Personal training handbook. I totally, I said in thevideo, I was like, I really don’t want a copyrightstrike, but this is as good of a diagram as I can do. And if I try to drawthis myself, it’s not gonna look pretty. so here’s the book. Yeah. I _Ashletix_: think they’dbe proud that you’re using that referenceand that you’re getting them out there as well. And that you’regiving them credit. That’s the main thing. Nicholas Dettinger: as asmall channel, I’ve never had a strike and I really don’twant one because once you get one, they can just bully you. But. No, that’s besides the point.So you’ve done a lot of,traveling, 30 countries I see on Instagram. And can you tell me alittle bit about your favorite places you went _Ashletix_: to. Yeah. that’s all in the spanof the last five years. I had a good friend of minetell me throughout my troubles to not stop and reflect toshe’ll get really overwhelmed. and I thought that wasreally good advice. And then as soon as he saidit, obviously I started to reflect and then I started toget a little bit like, Whoa, this is so many countries insuch a small amount of time. And, it’s all just whizzingby so quickly and really to stop and, be presentin it and to just Think about what I’ve learnedfrom each of the countries I’ve been to, and really,answer those questions. When people say what’syour favorite country you’ve been to.And, I didn’t ever reallyhave a specific answer because they’re all sodifferent, but, I was like, that’s not good enough. I was like, come on. what are actually someof the best countries that I’ve been to? And, I think the top threeon my list are Japan. because I’ve had theprivilege of going there twice and I studiedthe language in school. So I have a bit of aconnection to that place. And just the peoplethere are so kind, the culture is so different. You feel like you’reon a different planet. all of their differentcultural traditions that span across food towhat you wear to how you exercise to how you eat. There’s everything isjust so different from what we’re used to.Another awesome. I love Europe. We’ve done a lot oftouring in Europe. Arts is really bigover this or the performing scene is huge. There’s lots oftheaters and shows and opportunities over there. So have spent a lotof time in Europe. my hotspots in there, I feellike the hotspot, the word hotspot doesn’t have a verygood run, but the movement, the pandemic, My hot spot inEurope has got to be Bulgaria. which is pretty randomwhen I, when that came up on my list as a place totwo or two, I thought, why are we going to Bulgaria? That seems very odd and outof the way or a bit strange, but it was super cool. And, we were there inautumn, so it was really beautiful for colors. And again, the same thingthat people were just really friendly, they justtake to you very warmly. and the streets were justreally cool to explore lots of cobbelstones andtwisting winding words. And they haven’t yet. I switched over to the Euro. So quite cheap fortourists as well. Yeah. And they all switching overin the next few years there.And then of courseI love Canada. I know you’re in Ontario. I’ve only been there once,but I spent two and a half years living in Quebec city. I adore Canada andthe nature there. I just think you guys havethe best nature in the world. So I love Canada. Nicholas Dettinger: It’sfunny because as someone who is Canadian, youdon’t know what type of. What are you? Cause everything aboutCanada is it’s everything. And it’s also a little,it’s like a little bit of everything, but without beingspecialty, like we have maple syrup, Everyone coming back,we have the EH saying, but when I look at like my cuisineor even the heritage, really.It’s just everyoneelse’s food. _Ashletix_: Yeah. Yeah. I totally understand. You’re on that. Like people say Oh,what’s Australian food. And we don’t really,exactly have a food. Like we just, we love likebarbecues and we have a lot of good like meats, for example,but we don’t necessarily have a cultural difference. We like, we takeeveryone else’s food. Like Australia isvery multicultural. Like we have Thai restaurants,everything on the same strip. So I totally can relate tothat when people say what’s like your thing and thing istaking everyone else’s thing. Nicholas Dettinger: So someonewho has traveled around to will highlights Japan. Really? I bet that one’spretty different too. Australia’s in terms ofmaybe training, could you look, could youhave any words on that? Say if their workoutroutines, I know that a lot of people may be more in Northregions, maybe favor like powerlifting or CrossFit. so if you have any insights _Ashletix_: on that,Yeah, absolutely. I think that the biggestdifference stems from their cultural upbringingand especially in Asian countries, they havea lot of spirituality incorporated, into theirlives from a young age.So I think that this,Immediately brings down the age barrier. So I think when I’ve traveled,for example, I’m in China and in Japan, if I go to aworkout park, I can see a 70 year old grandpa upside downin a handstand alongside a 10 year old boy on monkey bars. there’s not reallythat age gap. There’s not like that stuffof you have to be young and healthy and fit to work out.Maybe you’ve seen crazy videoson the internet where you see like lots of old Chinesepeople working out in a park together and that’s just. Part of what they do. That’s a part of theirdaily routine is to move their body and to dosome resistance training. Like it’s just ingrainedin their culture. and I’ve thought about thatand whether that’s to do with their spiritual yeah. Aspect and their religionsand drawing energy from themselves from a young age. When I was traveling inJapan, I was working on an Island called awaji Island. and we did a lot of showswho’s in the schools there, which is really awesome. And obviously kids have. So much energy. So it was justa, a lot of fun. But, the biggest thing Inoticed was that they made the kids clean the schoolat the end of their recess. Yeah. So it was at first wereWhoa, like this is a bit intense, but then you’re like,actually, no, it’s actually really cool because the kidsthat aren’t so inclined to run around at recess, orjust want to sit down and play cards, for example,at the end of their recess, they’re getting up and they’regetting in groups and they’re cleaning, they’re sweeping theplayground or they’re cleaning the bathrooms literally.Which is pretty crazy for us. you go Oh, that’s. You know the job for thecleaners or something, you feel quite distanced fromthat, but for them, it’s a really hands on experiencein a group experience. that was really coolto see the kids moving. Even if they weren’t movingin their recess, they had to do some cleaning before theysat back down at their desks.It’s another place. in the United Arab Emirates,for example, I did a lot of one to one coaching over thereand the mentality of people over there is so intense. And I think I was workingin Dubai and that’s a very ambitious city and a lot ofpeople there are there to chase their dreams for a fewyears and then go back to their homelands, for example. and so people were just. They’re so raw and they’reso real, and it doesn’t matter if they don’t havethe right workout equipment. It doesn’t matter if theydon’t have the right gear, they want to get a workoutand they’ll get a workout in.So you’ll find people likein the summer, like in 30 to 40 degree heat training,outdoors, just to get that’s what on, and thatwas something that was just like, it didn’t really matterwho you were, where you came from, what you were wearing. If you looked good enough,it was like, you’re there to work out and you’ll get a workout in people flipping tires, just that kind of really raw,Authentic kind of working out, which was really awesome tosee because obviously Dubai has that element of being lashand extravagant and rich, and there is that side of it, butthere’s also a very authentic and gritty side of it too.That’s really cool. As far as like power liftingCrossFit, that’s an industry I’m yet to get into, soI’m not sure exactly where in the world, but youmentioned maybe up North. There’s a lot of, powerlifting and CrossFit. What’s Nicholas Dettinger:that about? when it comes to YouTubeand the audiences that really respond to that typeof content, you can look on something like Googletrends and it’ll show that the people lookingup that type of content are mostly North America. And that’s why a lot oflike home gym videos might be tailored towards squatracks and not Oh, tires or sand bags is because, theyhave a higher income to, for those types of equipment. But also Google’s datassaying, Hey, they’re looking for this.So make videos on it. _Ashletix_: Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. come to think of that. I do have quite a few friendsup in Canada that are in the CrossFit scene as well. So yeah. I didn’t realize howprominent is not there, but that’s awesome. You have your ownhome squat rack. Nicholas Dettinger: Yes. Yes. I think I’ve made eightvideos or I might’ve repeated the exact samething, but you know what? The information evolvesjust enough each time to make a new video. especially the last one. I made a hierarchy ofhome gym equipment, which really summarizes that. When you have no money,you should just go get cinderblocks and somesandbags and go to your local playground or something. And just to work out likewhen I am actually strapped for time to work out, Ifind the best work that I can have is just takeone 45 pound dumbbell.Do one sided. Farmer’s carries down ablock, make don’t drop it. keep doing the hallwayblock, go back. I tried to do lunges,the entire block I got about halfway. And I was like, no,I cannot do that. That was a long distance. and then just those likefunctional movements with the dumbbell then goingfor a bike ride afterwards. Cause really if you don’thave time for a big workout, you don’t have to worry aboutnot hitting a big workout. And even when it comesto the cheap home gym equipment, a lot of peopledon’t use gymnastic shrinks. And that’s why I reallyliked that photo you had of the, parkour and moregymnastic style movements on like playground equipment. because I had a buddywho saw me recommend gymnastics rings so much. and then he started doingthem in his workouts and he’s yeah, I have a gymin my house or a gym in my apartment, but I would rathergo to the park and hang up those rings just to do myrow and stuff like that._Ashletix_: Yeah, absolutely. I think that’s whatpeople are looking for is something different. it’s something fun andeveryone’s so used to the same exercises over and over. And, obviously with isolationbeing confined to your bedroom or your livingroom or whatever, and you just want to break it up. So I love that you just takea step back and do lunges. That’s awesome. Whether you look at itlike farmers, for example, on the farm lifting heavyweights, it’s just, it’s functional movement. And if you want to get yourheart rate up, you’re human at the end of the day, that’swhat we’re designed to do. we all have the tools inour body to get a good workout and it doesn’tmatter what you wear. It doesn’t matter theequipment that you have. It doesn’t matter. The facilities, allthose things can enhance your training.But at the end ofthe day, you’re human you’re designed to move. So move Nicholas Dettinger:pretty much. That’s what it is. And that was the core behindthe cheapest home gym was like, I bought a squat rackand home gym equipment. I spent two grand on thewhole thing is, they might have a video that says likea under $400 home gym, but there’s so many hidden costs. unless you’re American andyou also, having a going out of business gym that justclosed and you’re buying their equipment, then maybe youcould get that kind of price, but I don’t really think so. the reason I got gymnasticsrings because I couldn’t afford a dip station.And I was like, I havea place to hang it from. I can just do dips that way. And then I just realized,Oh, I can do rows. I can do a inverted _Ashletix_: hangs You’re training yourproprioception at the same time as well. Cause in a traditional squatrack, for example, or on a dip bar, you’re stationaryand it doesn’t move. Whereas on the ringsyou’re having to balance the whole time and you’retraining all those, smaller, finer muscles as well. you’re training yourappropriate reception and it’s more fun. It’s a challenge for you. yeah, I’m all for it. And a set of rings is waycheaper than trying to, build up all the fancyequipment and all that kind of thing as well, andprobably a lot quicker. And pain-free the process ofjust lacing some rings around as opposed to putting allthe parts together as well.Yeah. And you transport them. Nicholas Dettinger: So I’mactually going on a vacation for a week and I’m like, Howdo I work out in a place? Always, I’m not goingto have access to a gym. It’s like a cottage area. So I was like, wait a second. I’ll just packrings in my bag. And they’ll hangingfrom a tree. I got to test it to makesure it holds my weight, but I was like, I just soldvedthe problem right there. _Ashletix_: Absolutely. And people will kill forthat kind of content. That’s what people are after. they want innovative ways towork out fun ways they want, like you say, how do you workout when you’re traveling? For example, like I’veseen people that go and have a holiday at thebeach and they don’t take anything with them and theyjust go and find rocks. And they’re literally pickingup rocks and doing squats on the beach and squatsin the sand with their rocks, And I’m like, yes,people that find fire wood.For example, I saw a guy postsa video of the day and he literally went to a locationwith his drone to film a video and forgot his kettlebell. And he decided to just pickup a log and I was like, awesome, like functional,that’s what, there’s a lot of people, unfortunatelyin positions where they can’t afford the equipment. So why not give them analternative that anyone could have access to Nicholas Dettinger: no,a hundred percent I’ve even wanted to move mytraining to more of. Not gonna say real world,but some type of more functional, like I reallywant to do rope climbing and even like rock climbing. my lats are not strongenough, which is always a gripe with me. They, for some reason theyjust don’t really respond. I know it’s my training, but,I really, cause I’ve hanged. Battle ropes. I’ve hung it on my squat rack. So you can do ropeclimbing at home. Awesome.Pretty good idea. I know _Ashletix_: you probably know. We have the AustralianNinja warrior happening right now on TV. Like it’s live right now. They just had thefinale last night. and for the lastfinal climb, it was. Mount Madorie Alma. And they had a 20 meter ropeclimb that people had to do. They could start standing,which is really good instead of sitting. But yeah, it just made me wantto get back on the road, but I hadn’t done a rope climbingprobably over 12 months. Yeah. I rope climbing. Amazing. And definitely if you’relooking to build your lat strengthen, that’ll do it. It’s funny when peoplewas like, how do I get better at pull ups? I’m like do more pull-upshow do I, what do I need to train to be able todo a pull up I’m yes.Yes, there aresteps you can take. But honestly, you juststarted doing that. Pull up motion, whetherit’s with a resistance band or a knee platform or. Water, for example,you’ll get better at it. I think people overcomplicated a lot sometimes from their triggering,certain muscles are trying to achieve a certain goal. Nicholas Dettinger:No, that really is it. when it comes down toit, you’ve got to stop procrastinating and actuallyreach towards your goals. And that’s pretty apparentwith the time that COVID gave a lot of peoplewas, especially for you.You said, you know what? I got an opportunity here. That’s really oncein a lifetime, that. I can start working ona second passion and end up on a podcast. _Ashletix_: Yeah, absolutely. Which I’m super excited about. I’m really grateful to beone of your guests and I love the content you’re creatingand the direction that you’re going and how sciencebacked your research and what you’re putting out there is. Cause I think there’s a lot ofpeople that are also aspiring to do the same thing, buthaven’t really had the time to do the study, for example. So it’s really cool thatyou’re coming at it from an angle that is backedby science and giving people those resources. I like that book as well. Nicholas Dettinger: Yeah. Most of the time. It’s just questions that Ihave myself that I haven’t been able to answer.And, for the muse or theheadband, we talked about that prior to the podcast, forneurofeedback and biofeedback training, I was like, peopletalk about flow States. They talk about gettinginto the advanced type of, high performancefocused, eight hour day work periods, high CEO’s. I’m like, okay. Now for the marketing,how does it actually work to shape your brain? Because obviously yourbrain responds to anything. if you watch YouTube videosall day, you’re going to start to actually change thephysical layout of how you just become a transcriptionmonkey and you can actually create your own ideas anymore. so how does that science work? And it led me down a rabbithole, of a 4,000 word script that I told you that before. But, I’ve written ones thatwere like 3000 and I kinda got it down to a 20 minute video. but the production time I’mon it is just stupidly high. I do it to myself. It’s not just thehour of filming. It’s more just the editing it.Cause it’s just somuch of me going. Oh, messed up. Oh, I head wasturned the wrong way. like you yeah. _Ashletix_: At leastwe’ll have a, we’ll have a good bloopers reel thatcan come out later on. Nicholas Dettinger: No, I,actually the book was real. I made a video, today whereI was talking about the types of brain trainingI do, and there’s a scene of me playing guitar. So at the end, I alwaysgoing to just do what, this is, what the guitaractually was sounding Lake. So I was just barelyplaying like the frets on the first string. So I thought about it, butI was like, I don’t want to mess up my watch time. but _Ashletix_: yeah, I totallyfeel you on that, but I feel like that’s where I’mperfectionism can get the better of us sometimes. And it’s just, we’re all humanat the end of the day and it doesn’t matter if you messup a little bit, obviously we all have our own standards andsometimes they’re ridiculously high and that can be hardto, function with, but maybe doing it like in a threepart series, for example, breaking it up into 20 minuteepisodes and doing your muse biohacks three part series.That would be somethingthat would be. So interested in watchingand I think with people’s attention spans, not being aslong these days as well, maybe something like a 20 minutepiece, people would be really invest in that 20 minutes, Nicholas Dettinger: I thinkhe might’ve just saved my bacon for the next week. As _Ashletix_: long as youput some maple syrup on it? Nicholas Dettinger: Yeah. Oh, wow. Good one. I never get Canadian jokes. what is a Canadian joke? I don’t even know, _Ashletix_: Anythingto do with people being really polite,sarcasm and maple syrup. that’s my little, they’re mythree keys for Canadian jokes. Nicholas Dettinger: No,you got it on the nail. for maple syrup,nutrition and different areas around the world. you went to Japan,obviously they have their own cultural heritage. Then we reflect on, theirnatural training, to be more. Of how their societyhas grown up.So what kind ofnutrition do you see around different areas? Maybe even the clientsthat you’ve worked with. _Ashletix_: This one’squite interesting in terms of just standards of healthglobally, and also standards of what people deem to be fitand healthy and beautiful. For example, there’s alot of differences there. So for example, my stature. Certain countries thatI’ve been to, people would consider as unhealthy,whereas I could travel to a different country and I wouldbe considered to be lean. So for example, like inJapan, there’s a lot of different health trendshappening and people eat a lot of fish, for example. you’re. Mostly eating a lot ofprotein that comes from the ocean, but you can go to acompletely different country and that’s unheard of you getyour protein from the land. and I think one of thebiggest differences that I’ve noticed in my travels islike, for example, in tropical and warm climates, where. Really awesome fruit grows. People will go to thatas their source of sugar. So someone that’s forexample, in Thailand, that’s just come out of the ocean.That’s just surfed is morelikely to go and get their fruit and their sugar soulsfrom directly from a coconut, as opposed to someone like,for example, even Australia here that might come out ofthe ocean has just done a surf and just go straightto the convenience store to get a candidate, SoI think that it’s okay. I like to do a lot with yourenvironments, but, depending on the environment that you’rein and what’s growing around you, and then the other thingI would note on that is. For example in Europe,I’ve done a lot of touring to smaller towns. I was vegan for eightmonths in 2018 and I was on tour in France.Just think about that fora second vegan in France. Yeah. It was tough. It was tough. And I think, obviously that’snot to say that you can’t do it and it definitely,it’s a lot of effort and it’s a lot of time. It’s a lot of planningand in the biggest cities, it’s absolutely possible,but I was doing shows in. Talents that had probably500 to a thousand people. So they were very small. And the health trends thatthe rest of the world is knowing about right nowhadn’t hit those places yet.I was going to a resturantat 11:30pm at night after a show and trying toorder pasta and remove the butter and the garlic and. trying to removeeverything and they’d be like, that pasta is madefrom egg to begin with. And they would knowthey wouldn’t even know what the word beacon is. I think that was, a prettymemorable experience in my eyes, but just, yeah,just obviously nutrition differs around the world. We all know that itdepends on the food sources that grow there and whatpeople have access to. it depends on how media hasinfiltrated it and depends on the amount of peoplethat go for and startup. No businesses over there toget the health trends going. But, yeah, I just thinkthe biggest differences are like, where do youget your protein from? Obviously, for example,in Alaska, a lot of people are going to behaving salmon for here.We don’t do that. We get a salmonimported, for example. yeah, I think it’s just,depends on your environment and what’s around you andwhat you have access to. Nicholas Dettinger: Haveyou worked with individuals on the nutrition withyour online service or is it just a workouts? _Ashletix_: Yeah. So my main focusright now is workouts. I have a very strong opinionabout not advising people on nutrition, if I’m nota qualified nutritionist. for me, longterm, Imight partner with the nutritionist to do that kindof, part of my platform. Or I might eventuallygo into those studies. It’s on my list. but for now, I, like I sayto people, I can advise you, I can give you advice. I can tell you what I doand what works for me, but everyone is differentat the end of the day. And that’s not something thatyou want to be messing with. everyone has theirown different DNA. We have our own differentwhat works for your neighbor. Isn’t gonna work for you. Okay. Don’t mess aroundwith that stuff. you want to get it right? So that it’s rightfor longevity and for the rest of your life,basically, you want it.You want to. Put time and money and energyinto getting that, right? Yeah. So go and see a professional. That’s going to really workwith you, do all the kind of testing that you need to knowwhat’s going on inside because you can play guessing games. You can keep a food journaland see how you’re feeling, but until you go andget those tests done and know that you’re lactoseintolerant or know that you’re allergic to something you’rejust going to be battling for a couple more years. And I think you could saveyourself the time by going to your medical professional,and finding the answers there first, before you even. Begin going down the roadof, five different coaches to try five differentelimination diets to figure it out yourself. yeah, I have a lot ofpeople they, they’re a bit disappointed at firstwhen I say I’m not going to do nutrition for you.But then when I explained itto them, they understand why, Nicholas Dettinger:honestly, I actually really applaud that,because it’s transparent. Like it’s also, forlegal reasons, right? You don’t want someoneto say, My ketone levels made me, whatever,Whatever the causation is, but honestly thattype of I’m not ready yet. So I’m not going to assumethat I know everything because I guess the biggest thingwith health and fitness is that your next door neighbor,he might know more than you on a certain topic.But really it’s justhow you get to the end goal for the client. And, that’s also been moreof like the motto with, my. YouTube channel website,whatever you want to call it is that I got to go in stepsand I have to acknowledge when I actually hit a stepand not try to say I’m a personal trainer right now. I’ve been getting mycertifications, but I haven’t actually trainedwith a client yet.So I can’t honestlywrite an ebook on how to be a personal or how tomake your own programs. If I’ve honestly never had theone on one conversations with someone to say, you know what? You’re not looking atyour leg the right way. Your hip flexors areall weird, right? Like that type ofintuition, I don’t have it. So I really applaudthat you are transparent with your clients. _Ashletix_: Yeah, thank you. And I think that’s, that’sreally awesome of you as well. And I think there’s nothingwrong with saying I’m a personal trainer and training,when people are going to get used to you and yourpersonality and they’re going to want more of you.And then when theylearn that you are five, they’re definitely goingto book in with you. That’s how you build rapportwith people and build trust, and I think that, not onlyare you doing your client or just service, if you’rejumping the gun or lying to yourself, aligned toyour client, but also doing yourself a disservice. because that takes away fromyour time being a student and absorbing that informationbecause you’re putting so much pressure on yourselfto be speed and product when you’re in training. and that’s where,we, I don’t know. I just think like with schooland with university, for example, we spend so muchtime thinking that’s such a large portion of time,whether it’s three to five years to get a degree, forexample, but in the span of things and in your lifeline,that’s not that much time.So just enjoy being a student. enjoy being on the receivingend of the professional and absorbing as much informationas you can and letting your mind ask those questionsrather than thinking, okay, I always need to beon the production side. people will come to me andthey’ll say, I want you to help me with my nutrition. I’ll say, this is what I do. This is what I eat, but thisis me and this is my stature. These are my facts. These are my statistics.These are my qualifications. This is what Ithink you should do. see a nutritionist, seea naturopath, go to a doctor, for example, I’mjust like, I’m straight up. I’m like, I wantthe best for people. And I want the bestfor the health. And. I’m a big believer. I’m I forget the name ofhim, for example now, but he’s a neurologist that workswith, a lot of actors, the weights that have had pastconcussions, for example. Okay. And what his whole emphasisis if he has a client come to him and say, Hey,I want you to check out, why my head’s hurtingor why this is going on. Or, for example, parentswill bring their kids in and say, they’re having thesecrazy tantrums, although acting in these weird moods. And I don’t know what’sgoing on, do I need to take them to a cycle? And he’s I can’tgive you any of that. This is before Iliterally scan your brain. Because I need to see what’sgoing on inside first.How can I make a judgment? I can say, okay, maybe he’shad too much sugar today. Maybe he hasn’thad enough sleep. I can have all these kindsof guesses, but until we get a good look, it’s tryingto diagnose a broken bone without doing an xray. Yeah. and I really lovethat approach. So I’m the same.I’m like, I’m not going todelve into something that I’m not qualified on and I’m notgoing to dare give someone advice on something that, Idon’t feel qualified to do. And I think also justembracing your own strengths and for me, that’s,I’ve spent the last 20 years running around theworld doing acrobatics. And literally being myown personal trainer. So why not, just rest in thatfor a little bit and say that this is what I do, and thisis what I love to do, and this is what I can offer you.Come around if that’s whatyou’re in for, and if you need a nutritionist andgo see a nutritionist, no, Nicholas Dettinger:that’s awesome. Because even when it comesto make my own videos, I really don’t really touchnutrition at all because. When you buy a predone efficient program and the person is acertified nutritionist, maybe it’s a naturopath.They’re going to have thereal world information. Like everyone can say, getmore protein, eat five pounds of beef a day, whatever it is. but. When it comes to, what myvitamin D levels are weird and I’m actually taking mycalcium at the same time. Oh, I didn’t know that thosetwo don’t work together and you’re limiting the nutrition,but no, they wouldn’t know that, but probablysomeone who just makes. I’m not going to say,just makes a YouTube video kind of that doesn’treally, that’s not honest. but who’s maybe isn’tpervy then information. They haven’t had the study orthey haven’t had the I’ve met a certain standard, can go. And I think that’s also whya lot of people don’t like when someone says that theyare a nutritionist or, what’s the other one, it’s you’renot the certification that you’re not the certified one.ESCs a nutritionistversus dietician. Yeah. is it. It might be, it might not, _Ashletix_: there is adifference between those two things, because I almost wentinto studying dietetics, which is the food science behind it. Not so much your body’snutrition and human nutrition. It’s a different categoryin and of itself. So there’s lots of different,it’s an umbrella, but there’s lots of differentniches within it. Nicholas Dettinger: Yeah. there’s one where you don’thave to have, like the I’ve met the board certification. There’s I am justa nutritionist. I can, I’m a healthy person. I can, make recommendationson my health programs, but I’m not a. Dietician cause the dieticiancan work in a medical field.They can actuallywork in hospitals. So they might havea little bit more information when it comes _Ashletix_: to their. Yeah, and this is, correctme if I’m saying what’s that you may not fully understandbecause I am Australian and we have certain tendencies,the tendency is to say things, that people may have neverhead before, but I’m going to open a new can of worms. And just say that, with thewhole social media space, there’s a lot of, abilityto, write whatever you want on your bio, for example. At the end of the day, it’s upto a person to be honest and transparent with what they’redoing on the services that they’re offering, but they canbe a lot of, jaded lines there with what people are doing. And I just think that, yes,of course there is a lot of pressure expected, Oh,you’re a personal trainer. So therefore you advisemy nutrition as well. But, I think having theconfidence and the courage and just the transparency tobreak that down for people is actually giving them a bit ofoverall service in the end and saving them time and money.Chasing around a fewdifferent coaches where they could just go straight to aprofessional, that’s going to do the right testing to givethem the right answers and get that clarity a hundred Nicholas Dettinger: percent. Because without that realprofessional information, odds are the person’s notgoing to have their situation fixed, which is the wholepoint of the conversation.I’ve been really tryingto learn how to actually answer someone’s question,not give them the answer. I think they want. _Ashletix_: Yeah, absolutely. Yep. I love that Nicholas Dettinger: becausemost people, they don’t know how to actuallyexpress themselves. Like when it comes to evenlike your own emotional intelligence, Most people,including me, we can’t really express our emotions properly. And just from being human it’shard, no one, there’s no book to be like point here to feelhow you’re supposed to feel. You’re learning as you go. So when it comes to evenknowing how to express yourself properly, sometimesthe client can yeah. Do that. And then you don’t reallyget the results they want. They get mad, they getfrustrated and they stop their diet or they relapse._Ashletix_: Yeah, exactly. And that, yeah, that’s atthe end of the day, it’s quality over quantity. you’d rather have threesessions with a client and fix their problem and theycan go off on their way and learn to do it themselves,which is the end goal. you want to help people makelifestyle changes that they can then be in control of,you don’t want to be, a coach that they become dependenton for their long term. It’s great. If you build permanentrelationships with clients and have that longterm. Approach, but you want to getinto a point where they’re training with you besideyou, not, you’re not coaching them all the time, or yousend them on their way when they’ve got the answers. yeah, just quality of quantityand time there as well.Nicholas Dettinger: Didyou have any concerns with starting your first batch of,online training with clients? _Ashletix_: as far as theonline space, because I’ve spent so long travelingaround and doing workshops with people and one onone coaching, thing I was worried about was, techniqueand that’s, it’s quite easy to, do a video andexplain technique and to show the right technique.But when you get thatone on one training with someone, you can see. Bought them, you can be therein the room, telling them, seeing all the little nuancesof what their body is doing, the position, the angle of thehead, all that kind of stuff. when you’re doing online,you have two options. You can either do aprerecorded video that they’re watching in their own time.So you have no idea ifthey’re actually following the technique or if they’reactually doing it properly. or you can do a one-to-onezoom sessions, like for example, what we’re doing now. but even then, like I can seehow you’re standing, but I, maybe because of the angleof the camera, don’t get your whole body in, for example. Yes, very good. Nicholas. I love that you’re standingby the way, I should be standing as well, but yeah. yeah, you can get a bitof a loss of technique. can we get into our own timeor if you’re doing it one to one, but there is thatzoom delay, for example, or there is, you can’t seethat whole body or you don’t get that full experience. and my second mainconcern with that was just energy because there’s. a lot of people and I don’tjudge people for this, but there’s a lot of peoplethat rely on the coaches energy or being in the roomto, have the motivation to do their workout. And, it’s, you canstill bring that energy through the screen.Like you can still have agiggle and have a laugh and bring that through the screen,but there’s a difference doing that in person. And for example, like highfiving, someone after their superset, you can’t reallycan’t do that to this school. Yeah, exactly. yeah, so they were, mytwo main concerns is technique and energy,but, that definitely it’s. Possible to workthrough those barriers. Nicholas Dettinger: Yeah. So two things. I actually did. One of those onlinegroup fitness classes for a job interview. They’re like, Oh, wehave to actually know if you can work out. so join in for freeon this zoom thing. I was like, okay. I know what to expectfor like I don’t. And. You could tell that thetrainers were really trying to convey that emotion. It was a 45 minute likehit training session. but there’s also like 20other people there too. So you’re not getting that. One-on-one like you might havewith an individual client, you’re getting them, maybekeeping up the energy by doing some small talk right.Or playing some music. but just the adaptationthat has had to come from this situation has reallystarted to break those. The technique mightnot be possible right now, but you know what? We can work on the humancommunication to get that workout, to be as good as it _Ashletix_: can. Yeah, absolutely. And I think that’s, atthe end of the day, people are wanting more and moreconvenient ways to work out. And, I obviously with thepandemic, there’s a lot of negativity with thatand there’s a lot of awful things that have happened. I’m not denying that, butI think there are silver linings to be found. And I think, forcing peopleto move a bit quicker into the online space is not, The worstthing, which provides people the chance to have an evenmore convenient experience for people at a time poolor that just, want to be working from home permanentlyor if they’re relocated or if they live off grid, forexample, they don’t have to travel to the gym to getthat one on one experience.And just, yeah, like yousay, just adapting ways to bring that through the Nicholas Dettinger: screen. There was a one idea, causeI’ve always had if I was to ever do you know, Online,personal training and someone had an app and they hadthe videos to the workouts. I was like, how do youactually check the doing the proper technique? And there’s this, thisis app on Android.It’s called BarSense. Basically you take apicture of the end of a barbell, The circle. And then it just tracksa line for the movement. And so then it can predict forcell put strength, output, and technique, No way, that’s it? Because it’s just doing okay. I know how big the barbellis, and I know how big the environment is. So you add in the weight. Okay. I’ll just do the mathto figure out how much weight you’re lifting. So I was like, couldthat work in like an app? I was like, I have theseideas, but I’m like, you know what, I’m gonnaput that in Evernote. And I’ll. Yeah, _Ashletix_: I’llget back to it. I’ll get back to it. That’s awesome though. I haven’t even thoughtthat thought, so that’s amazing that you’realready thinking about that and that’s possible. yeah, that could be aconversation for another time. What a little hacks to makesure that your client’s working out properly, eventhrough the screen, or even when they’re doingit offline, per say.That’s yeah, that’s a wholeother industry to think of. Yeah. Nicholas Dettinger: Causethere’s this a YouTuber. He does more. He does more like fitnesscommentary on maybe like the social aspects of it. But he also offers on hiswebsite a technique critique. So I was like, if you couldwatch the video, There’s labor costs, whatever. But if you had that type ofsoftware to do that kind of calculation, and then youlooked at it afterwards, maybe you could give them a,here’s a data report of how your actual workout look. Not just how mytyping experiences. Yeah. So that’s maybe a littletoo many connecting dots without a solid line yet._Ashletix_: On that note. I think, I was talkingto someone right recently and they were saying theyhad heard of muse, but not for the same reasons thatwe were talking about. They hadn’t heard ofmuse for its purpose, being a meditation. Headband. They’d heard of it becausepeople were using it, to test people when they were cycling. So that could be an example. For example, someone doinga workout with a muse headband on, so you can atleast see the brainwaves of what’s happening there.So maybe like you say, it’sjust some sort of hacking in the body to understand what’sgoing on in the physiological. Nicholas Dettinger:yeah, cause you can use, the muse has two apps. It has the actual. App. And then also has muse direct,which is like their answer to how do you get the directECG brainwaves out of it. And for everyone whodoesn’t know, that will be a bigger video on myYouTube channel coming up on the science of the museheadband, neurofeedback and biofeedback training. Give me a while it’s big,but the sides of that _Ashletix_: you’ve got time. You’ve got time. We’ve got peopleexcited already. I’m hyped. Nicholas Dettinger: Yeah. and actually somecomments where people who comment, they’ll belike, you know what, I’m trying to get hooked. I’m like, you know what, giveme a little bit more time.You’re going to bemore hooked than usual. there’s obviously there’sthe weird, like troll ones, Oh, click this link to getto this, whatever website, I don’t want to be demonetizedor anything like that. but then there’s actualones where people are like, you know what, thank you. For that video, because itwas actually informational and not just the first 20minutes is me doing a montage of getting my setup readyor something like that. _Ashletix_: Yeah, absolutely. That’s the thingbegin, bringing value to your clients. And two your viewersis the biggest thing. And I think there is alot of pressure to be posting so consistently.And how many times a day,or how many times a week, for example, but, I wasapproaching a webinar on someone coming up. At it from the oppositeangle and saying stop posting mindlessly andjust concentrate on your posts, being quality andinformation on bringing value to your clients. And you can do that threetimes a week, way less than what you’re doing now. You’d be way less burntout, but you’re making sure that it’s quality content. And like you say, that’ssomething that I also applaud and respectis guys, it’s coming. It takes some time it’sgoing to be better. And that’s something that oneof my mentors has always said to me is for example, whenGoogle was launched, they said we don’t want everyonecoming on the first day. And people like whywhat’s going to be the best thing ever.Like, why don’t youwant everyone like coming on the first day? cause it’s going to begetting good enough tomorrow. It’s going to be the next day. It’s going to getbetter the next day. We don’t want everyoneto come at once. Nicholas Dettinger:No, that’s very true. And I’ve had to deal with thatmindset because if you follow the perfect YouTube, SEO,whatever, which doesn’t really exist, I kinda think that it’sjust some monkeys in the back room or typing away how it allworks, to be honest because, channels, like what I’velearned can post once a month. And get millions of views, butchannels that can do multiple videos a day, maybe a newsrecap, we’ll get a thousand. And obviously that reallydepends on subscriber base and a lot of other stupidfactors, but I’m kinda just personally going, what. I want to make the video thatI want to make, because it’s a question I want answered.And if I’ve had that question,someone else is definitely going to go, you know what? I didn’t think about thatand actually enjoy the video. So those are theones I want to make. And obviously these podcasts,cause we can go back and forth on some more of thatexperienced knowledge in the health and fitnessfield and connecting some of those random dots likethat software idea to try to track someone’s movement. _Ashletix_: No, and Ithink that’s a really awesome approach. Like you say, you start withyou, there are questions that you have so cool. Someone else out thereis going to be wondering the same thing and that’smakes you relatable. So that’s, that’s awesome. And I love scrollingthrough your videos and going Oh my gosh. Yeah. you’ve given me four majorstretches that I can do and incorporate into myday that are really going to break up that fascia. I’m doing a lot ofsitting these days. Yes. I have a standing desk.I’m doing a lot ofsitting in the pandemic. I’m working on myscreen and Yes. I’ve got mystretching routines. I’m very flexible. I’m a gymnast, all thatkind of stuff, but I’m always a student andI was just like, Oh my gosh, thank you, Nicholas. yes, I want torelease my fascia. That’s what it is. It may not be the muscles. That’s tired. It’s the fascia. and it’s just, being remaininghumble and just being. Open to different approaches,and not having to expect yourself to always havethe full answers and be like a closed box. there’s all, you haveto stay flexible in your approach to learning thingsand taking a new methods. And I think, yeah, beingpatient and not putting the standards on yourself torelease something before it’s ready is, that’s again,it’s a respect level for yourself and for your clients. Nicholas Dettinger: I thinkthe humble factor also comes off in the videos because whenI went for a job interview, actually it was for like a.Coach for a football teamthat can assistant they’re like, okay, how do we know? You actually know stuff? I was like, all right,here’s a video watch. And he was laughing becausehe’s you know what, man, like showing someone thatyou did that is kinda it’s more impressive than having,this is my website with my, My pictures I’ve taken. It’s you know what? Someone’s looked at thatthey’ve had the chance to comment and describeor dislike it and yeah. More transparent. So on your Instagram, youhave the tagline train your body and your mind. Could you elaboratethat a little bit more? _Ashletix_: Yeah, absolutely. so longterm and especiallytowards the end of this year, I’m delving intopsychology studies. for me, I like peoplethat want to get a tattoo, they maybe they’ll drawsomething on themselves and leave it there for acouple of days and see in the mirror, if it looks.Good or bad, and if theyreally want it warm to the idea, for example. So for me in the last fewyears across my travels, I’ve been thinking aboutwhat do I want to say study? is it dietetics? Is it nutrition? Is it creative writing? I don’t even know what I wantto study yet just to be okay with not knowing, and letthe answers come over time. And the one that satwith me the longest has been psychology. so for me, I think thatfitness is not linear. I think that it’s verymuch, I’m a very broad kind of category.It’s multilayered,it’s interconnected. and you can’t just that, justdoing fitness is the answer. it’s health, it’s wellness,nutrition, it’s your mind. Your body can changeyour state of mind. Your state of mindcan change your body. So this kind of all started toshift for me a couple of years ago, I read a body calledhow the body knows its mind.And at first you pickedit up and you went, Oh, of course, of course yourbody knows it’s mine. Like everything thathappens up here registered down here and they’llthat kind of stuff. It’s a feedback we,for example, but, I was like, no, this is areally interesting book. And I just loved it. And it was talking all abouthow we’re interconnected and how environmentscan change our state of mind, which then changedhow we feel in our body.It changes our posture. It changes how we work. It changes how we move,how we interact with our space and our people. so yeah, just trainyour body and mind is. Teaching people thatit’s not just, go to the gym and move your body. It’s if you take care of yourmind, you’ll feel like taking better care of your body. If you take care of yourbody, you feel like a bit of state of mind. that’s where it’s coming in. And then I also want to delvein psychology studies to further my own knowledge andto, bring people the science behind what’s happening. And yeah. Rather than just sayingyes, of course, like maybe, yeah, your body’s goingto release endorphins and you’re going to feel good.That the chemicals inyour brain that reduce pain and help you tohave a better mood, for example, to be able to. Go into the science of thatand to really work with people on their mental state so thatthey can get the best out of their physical performance,coming from being a gymnast and an Acrobat, for example,dealing with stage fright and nerves and adrenalineand cortisol and injuries, all that kind of stuff. Just it’s just about so muchof, your mental state, how you’re physically perform asit is physically to mental. So just interconnectedness isthe main thing behind them. Nicholas Dettinger: AsI got through university and I started doing theYouTube channel because I want to answer questions. I really did realize that it’sall just so much information.And there’s just so much of itthat isn’t connected, right? there’s I learned abouthormones in class and I would ask questions toprof and they would get mad because it wasn’t in the. Section of the,like this isn’t. he had to say, you know what? I liked the question. I really do not going to saythat it’s not a bad question. It’s not in the scopeof this class, but I will answer it for you. And that’s when Iwas like, Oh, okay. Yeah, _Ashletix_: it shouldbe a part of this class. It’s all related. This is the right. Yeah, exactly. It’s a, it’s alsoseparate and yet it’s not. Nicholas Dettinger: Yes. And one of the. One of those things. When I was doing theresearch for my neurofeedback biofeedback video was like,one of the easiest or know one of the best pieces ofinformation I found was actually a PDF of a lectureslide that a musician posted somewhere in the ether onthat somehow Google scholar got a hand up and he had areferences to studies that I could not find with thesmall Google scholar search.I had to go through You knowhow to use the libraries away to look for things. And then I eventuallyfound it, but even he was like, you know what? I skimmed it down enoughto filter out the good stuff, the musician. And then I was like, Oh no,he answered questions that I was like, I didn’t even,I’d have to answer that yet. And that makes sensefrom a musical and psychology background. So how does that go innow to health and fitness? _Ashletix_: For me I could,talk until the cows come home. Like ‘I know a few goodmusicians that are quite good friends of mine, and they’revery much athletes, And for some people you think that’ssuch a silly term, like a musician as an athlete, butit’s just like the way that they hold their bodies and theway that they’re required to hold their bodies in the same. Isometric positions whilethey play, for example, and there’s a lot of, goodkind of emerging research.That’s going to comeout from those musicians in years to come. I’m working withsomeone right now. That’s, he wants to delveinto the economics of how musicians function to bettertheir bodies and to have less plane pain and toperform better, for example. But, yeah, I just,I get a little bit frustrated too, when. People say, it’s so separateand it’s so categorized and I can understand why,because you don’t want to overwhelm and then itcould just go on forever. But I think that, just sayingthat one thing is, one thing is doing it, not doing itjustice because, if you just put a little bit focused onthe mental aspect, as well as the physical they’regoing to do better together. Nicholas Dettinger: Oh 100%. the big connections thathave really come from, trying to do, lateral thinking,Connect this type of field and the type of field is howyou get the best inventions.And, there was a quotethat I totally stole. I forget what my video was. I think it was, Oh, it was myflow States explained video. Took the information fromthe stealing fire book and just related it back. I was like, lateralthinking is how do you make make one of the world’smost popular kids toy? It’s a combination ofcementing paste and a child’s play toy. You got silly punny, right? what is that? Yeah. that’s just saying, you knowwhat things can be connected. so that’s why it’s alsogood that you don’t go, you know what? I can’t speak enoughyet on nutrition. So I’m not going to workwith the client with you because I don’t want tolead you down that big spiral, the wrong way. _Ashletix_: I want to save youtime at the end of the day.That’s what you want to doand you want to give people answers and that’s, what’s socool about your channel and your content is that, it’s soexciting for you cause you’re answering your own questions. And then at the same timeyou’re answering it for hundreds of people that’llhave the same question or that maybe hadn’t arrivedat that conclusion yet, but that’s where they were going,and yet when they’re at that.Point where they needto ask that question. You’ve got a video for them. So that’s really awesome. I think you’re going to besaving yourself a lot of time, rather than having to thinkon the fly and answer client’s questions immediately. You’re going to havevideos for it that are gonna be backlog taken tosend them to you, which is good. Nicholas Dettinger: No thatis one of the better goals. it’s kinda weirdsending back to maybe my, like my first ones. Cause even I don’twant to watch them. Like I have a problem whereI don’t want to watch one of my original ones because. And then I’m like, ah, likemy most popular video is the cheapest home gym possible. It’s got almost80,000 views now. _Ashletix_: wow. Congratulations. That’s awesome. Nicholas Dettinger: Thank you. but. I’m not a quality snob, I’ma perfectionist a little bit when it comes to thevideos, it was just, it’s me before I learned a couplemore things about how to do certain things, certainway to look better for the video to maybe even makethe audio quality higher for the person watching it.So I still appreciatethat knowledge. I know other people reallystill appreciate that because they go, the quality ofthe information was better, even though the video of it. Look. Like it was shot on a red. Oh my gosh. _Ashletix_: Absolutely. Oh man. I just, I listenedto a lot of Gary V. and I think if you everfind yourself caught up in a position whereyou’re, doubting yourself or you’re questioning,is it pretty enough or is it good looking enough,stop and just ask yourself what is the purpose of it? And if the purpose isinformational, that’s your main key point. Yes. All the other stuffcould be better. Yes. It could look a bit prettier. It could be a differentposition for example, but that’s not the main focus. You’re not wantingpeople to go. Oh, that was a pretty video.You want them to getan answer out of it? You want it to be informativeand that’s what they get. I would say don’t everthink about deleting it and don’t be scared to sendpeople back to all videos cause that just showsthem, your journey as well. It shows them how committedyou are and how long you’ve been doing it.And for example,like if there’s one that you really just. Aren’t settled with, you canjust be like, okay, great. I’m going to be sendinga lot of people, this information, so let’s redo it. I know how to dothe good audio. Now I know how todo a good video. For example, all theinformation is the same. So that makes your job easy. You just have to memorize itagain, but, and then just do it, a shiny version of it. But I think that, yeah,there’s a lot of pressure of things to be so perfectimmediately, but I think there’s a lot of strength inpeople seeing your journey.Nicholas Dettinger: No, andthat’s why I’ve actually kept. The first videos that I made,because I like to, I like to be a little humble about it. Like the first video was howmuch protein do you need? And it was shot onmy camera phone. I tried to use a green screenand, Oh my God like the green screen blocks are this bigon the actual video and. I couldn’t speak properly. Cause you have no ideahow to pace yourself in a conversation when you’ve neversat in front of a camera.So I still like those. I still keep themthere because I’m like, you know what? I made that video and it’s onmy, my server as an archive. It’s still there. _Ashletix_: Absolutely. Yes, pleas,. don’t and that’s, even if it’sonly for your own reference, even if other eyes don’tsee it, for example, but yeah, it’s a look back toyour self on your journey. And for example, yes,you’re talking like large scale musicians,for example, athletes. When they’ve made it, forexample, people are like, Oh my God, show me your vaults. Like I want to see youwhen you were 10 years old doing that hurdle.I want to see you stackingit on your face 20 years ago. I want to see you when youhad this haircut or when you went through this phase, forexample, like that’s gold, and that’s something that youcan reference later on in your journey, for example, cause. I think with the way thatthe health and fitness and wellness industry isgoing, it’s, it’s not just a linear thing anymoreand it’s not just fitness.It’s your identity. It’s your growth as a person,it’s your self development. So being able to show peoplethat and be a living breathing example of that is huge. Nicholas Dettinger: Yeah. And I think I find thatinspiration from your own, quarantine tips,video that you’ve been posting on your channel. And, I like them a lot. I liked the outside style,it matches a lot of how. When it comes to amotivational video, or even like a quarantine tips, theydon’t have to be an hour long because really the most thingyou’re trying to get out of it is that someone takes action. And I get that a lot fromyour videos because they’ve probably come from a placewhere, You’ve needed to find maybe solutions for yourclients, maybe to have those types of ways to communicate. These are my personal stressesand I want someone out there who’s going to feel theexact same way to get that little bit of inspiration.A quick video. _Ashletix_: Yeah, absolutely. And you hit the nailon the head there. I just think that becausewe’re all in isolation or we’ve all been in isolation,we spent so much time on the screen and a lot of scrolling. And what the last thing youwant is someone to scroll, see that it’s 20 minutesand just keep scrolling when you have somethingthat could help them.You want that tobe short and sharp. You want to deliver theinformation, want to deliver the answer you want to deliverthat content immediately. And, I think, for me,because I am building a personal brand, I like toincorporate a lot of my personal tactics into it. I think anyone building apersonal brand that doesn’t personalize it is goingdownhill very quickly.So let me, I love nature. So I was just like, cool. Like I want to give people,I want to bring a bit of nature into people becausein here in Adelaide, we. Got ahold of COVIDvery quickly. So we didn’t actually gointo a full lockdown mode. Still, always able to leave,always able to exercise, always able to go outinto parks and things. So I was like, cool. Like I want to be able tobring nature into people’s homes, show them somethingreally beautiful, but give them informationalcontent that’s short and sharp and sweet. So yeah, Nicholas Dettinger: I likethe Vids because I think it was a one of them. You can hear someone in thebackground go, Oh, good job. And you twist your headand you go, thanks. That was the first take.I was like, yeah. I love that. _Ashletix_: Yeah, Ido remember that one. Actually, it was really funny. You bring that up. I was sitting next to a Lakeriver thing and there was a bridge and there was a familyand I could see them coming. And that was the thing. Like I was filming thisvideo and it was really cold. don’t be mistaken. Adelaide is cold inAustralia does get cold. I was shivering. And I was just like, I reallyjust want to get this done in one take, had to be somewhere. I don’t want to rushto the one to give my audience quality quantity. I want to, do it with care. But I was like, I reallyneed to get this done. I could see them comingfrom a hundred meters wide. I could see the littlegirl on a black and I was just like, they’re goingto come to the video.Just going to go on and on. And then I managedto just get it done. And then the mother caught upto them and caught the little baby and stopped them ontheir bike and just held them for a couple more seconds. And then I finishedand she let them go. And she’s thank you. So yeah, alwaysdeclined people. Thank you.Nicholas Dettinger: I see onyour Instagram, you’ve have this, quarantine magazine. Is that is there. So what’s the story behindthat because I like the caption, that this wasn’t themain photo, but honestly, like it’s got so much personalityand so much of, your self personal brand on it that youcouldn’t mistake that for an actual, this was the photowe were trying to go for. _Ashletix_: Oh, gosh. so about 20 meters from whereI am now on my daily, like neighborhood walk, there’sthis beautiful wall, which is attached to someone’shouse and it’s a nice kind of gray blue color. And it just makes a reallygood background for photos. and yeah, I just decided totake some photos there one day and, Classic girls being girlsfixing my hair and that’s, it was taken before I’dactually gotten in position.Yeah. and then someone, agood friend of mine that is very tech savvyand loves camera apps. He loves editing. He loves design. He just decided to putit through a filter. So that is actually just afilter from a camera app. It’s not a magazine. I haven’t made it intoa magazine cover yet to maybe who knows. yeah, so I thought,cause that’s the thing I was like, are peoplegonna think that this is actually a magazine cover? And I was like, Oh, I don’tknow if I’m jumping the gun there a little bit, but I justthought it’d be quite funny. And then I was looking fora thumbnail, I’m sure you’re very experienced with this.You’re looking forthumbnails for YouTube videos all the time. I wanted a thumbnail to sayHey, the whole foreign ship series is up on YouTube. Like I haven’t. I just launched myYouTube channel with that. So I was like, Iwant it to be punchy. I want to be catchy. I don’t know what to do. I’m not good at design. So I was like, what do I do? And then I was just scrollingthrough my photos and I thought that would behilarious because it’s it’s a filter for quarantinebecause lots of camera apps are banking on that.Right now, people doingcrazy like photos and quarantine and stuff. So it’s just a filter. Nicholas Dettinger: Youactually, you actually got me like, I am so sorry. no, don’t be sorry. If I try to look at ita little closer now I’m like, Oh, why is herthat bottle on the left? Left dry. but like the layoutof the words. It works just fine. I think one of the problemswhen you’re making your own thumbnails is thatyou, they don’t look right. When you see someoneelse’s, that’s done, you’re like, Oh, that’show it’s supposed to look. Cause like it’s finished,but you’re making it. And I actually find thatI find the best thumbnail headshots while I’m justpressing record on my camera. I’m not trying to justsay actual picture because what I want out of thepicture sometimes it’ll get, but I’ll find a weird. my head was a certain way. _Ashletix_: Yeah, absolutely. That’s a lot ofpressure on thumbnails. So yeah, that was abit of a funny joke. I think you always have toremain lighthearted and be able to laugh at yourself.So that’s what that was,but I do apologize it and it actually got you. Nicholas Dettinger: No,I’ve actually wanted to make a small magazine formy personal website where I can just take all right. This is what wasposted this month. Be at the videos, be atthe website, Be it the Instagram or whatever, andjust condense it down to a three page, email blog. If someone could get,cause then they could go.Hey, I couldn’t watch all yourvideos, but I had this great podcast guest on and I wantto see the highlights of this. I think about these things. And, you have too manyideas where you’re like, how do I make them? _Ashletix_: Thatsounds amazing. And that sounds like a reallygreat way of giving bite-sized content to people or sayinghere’s the wrap for August. This is what yougot this month. For example, here’s,what’s hot right now. but that’s the, I don’t knowexactly the system that you have behind what you do. And you’re obviously a bit ofa workaholic as well, which I really respect and I’m onthe same wavelength, if you had a team, that’s the kind ofthing you could be like, okay. Like the team, this is whatwe’re going to whip up.But when you’re trying todo it all by yourself, it gets a lot on your plateand the editing and the filming and the recording. Yeah. I’ve had to get it, Nicholas Dettinger: eventhough I have more time. Than ever. I have to limit myself toone to two actual videos a week, because there’s somuch, I have more time to do research, which I reallyenjoy that part, because you’re just like, Oh,that that’s how it works. Okay. That’s that feeds me. But. The actual editing. I don’t like it because Iwish I had someone to do it. I wish the channel hadmoney to do that, but I was like, you know what? I’ve made 50 buckson Amazon this month. We’re not doing that. _Ashletix_: Yeah. Not yet. I tell yourself, not yet. That’s the thing,And I’ve come. I came across someone in Dubaiwhen I was training and he was launching like, Stunt Academy. So giving people ways totrain, to become stumped performance, for example,and do the martial arts, which is super cool becausehe was pioneering it.There was no one in Dubaidoing that kind of thing. There are lots of stuntartists and martial artists, but no one kind of teachingthe course of how to learn. and he, he would alwayssay to me, like, why are you wasting your timedoing you’re an editing and all this kind of stuff. And I’d say, not yet bepatient that’s one thing that I’m, I’m good andbad at is having patients. It depends what it is thenif it’s relative to my own goals or whatever, but yeah. That’s one thing that he said,Oh, I just get all my content and send it off to my editorand they edited it or for me. And I said, yeah, but there’sa difference when you’re building a personal brand,you want it to come from you.You want it to feellike you, and you want to build your flavor. So once you build that flavor,then you can tell someone how to do that in your style. But until you’ve done itenough yourself to figure out what your style is,that’s the important part. Nicholas Dettinger: Yes. and that’s Where I likestill doing the editing is because you learn. These nots, so intendedway to use like a software to get something done. like that example with themotion tracking, I’m always trying to figure out, Oh,that’s how I can do with this to get that resolved. And that type of educationreally doesn’t come from a book, like you can’t just goto class to figure out how to get to random pieces ofsoftware or maybe to even random pieces of healthand fitness information, to condense it down.So as you’ve grown inyour health education, what kind of little bitsof nuggets have you found along the way to maybe helpwith your clients or even for your own education? Yeah. I think you probably heard ofthe 80 20 rule, so it’s 80% nutrition and 20% exercise. yeah, I always start with,you can do as much exercise as you want and you can goas a, as you want in the gym, you can run your body intothe ground and thinking you’re going to burn it all off. But if nutrition is notright, then you’re not going to lose the weight. I think it’s an overlookedgolden nugget, but it’s that if you’re in the spaceof wanting to lose weight, it’s a calorie deficit,that’s what you need to be in order to lose the weight. That’s a really big nuggetthat I think gets overlooked. _Ashletix_: And I alwaysreiterate that to people cause I’m like, if what youwant is to train intense and to feel like a machine. And that’s great, but knowthat’s not the answer.If you’re trying to lose yourweight, for example, it’s part of the whole puzzle,it’s one little piece. I think another thing thatgets overlooked, it’s a bit of a golden nugget is that. Fitness is not just fitness. It’s not just yourphysical state. It’s your mentalstate as well. for example, you couldhave, a runner that runs every single week, and issuper fit and loves their running and is progressingtowards those goals. But they’re a smoker. So long time their body’sgoing to be eaten from the inside out and their lungsare going to fight or, even if they’re still runningevery week and they still feel really strong, they’restill performing really well.There’s a lifestyle changethat needs to happen there in order to promote longevityand to have them continue doing that exercise thatthey love for long term. not just looking at fitnessis like, how fast can you run? Or how high can you jump? Or how intense can you do it? Or how motivated are you? looking at it from a wholepuzzle because you are a human and your body is verylayered and there’s a lot. Yeah. There’s a lot to work out. yeah, I think that’sthey’re the two golden nuggets and then I think. as far as like a golden nuggetfor being a coach to begin with, is that like respectthat you’re also human. no one, yes, of course somepeople want a coach that just like yells at them andthey want that distance and they want that authorityand they want to feel like, Oh my gosh, there’s such abig gap there because it’s a role model and you do wantto be able to like, walk the talk and show them thatyou can do the exercises that you’re telling them todo all that kind of stuff.But. At the end of the day, likethey want you to also be human and they want you to be ableto empathize with them and to listen and to be able tochat with them and to work with them through their ownobstacles, not to feel like, you’re just their coach. and that particularly goesfor clients that become longterm clients, becauseyou know that, like I said, you’re not just watchingtheir fitness change, you’re watching their identity andtheir growth as a person change along the way too.And that’s why I really likedthe tagline on your Instagram. Be it mind and body,because as I’ve. maybe started to learn alongthe way, is that when you’re doing a diet, when you’redoing a weight loss exercise is not the actual caloriedeficit, because really it’s the food you wee andalso hormones, Einstein, but that’s the act, the externalstuff, the stuff that really determines, how you go isthe quality of your food and the actual routine thatyou can follow to hit a certain, calorie, But evencoming out is an exercise.Like I had this ideawhen I was younger. It’s you know what, I’lleat the same amount of food. I’ll just work out more. And really, that’snot an actual solution because your body yeah. It doesn’t want tocontinually up the rev when it’s on the same fuelsource, it really wants to try and go, you know what? Let’s change up your trainingso that maybe you can accommodate me, but whatyour muscle fiber, what your gut track is reallytrying to do is not what I’m trying to do right now.So even if you wantto lose weight, we’re not going to do it. If you just try to pumpme up with more exercise. Yeah, absolutely. And that’s like a major thing. people can tell all the boxes,even with their nutrition and their fitness, but ifthey’re so stressed that their cortisol levels are up andtheir body just doesn’t want to lose the weight becauseit’s holding onto it as like a stress response, Sothere’s so many layers to it.And I think that if you don’tstart to pick those layers apart and make sure thatthey’re all conditioned, then, just trying to doone or two things, isn’t probably going to give youthe answers that you want. but yeah, like you say,there’s this so much going on from, you got to your mind,your body, to your state. And that’s, I admire that,young Nicolas wanted to just exercise more likethat’s very, you think that’s the answer, but it’snot sustainable longterm. And that’s, try tellingthat to an 18, 19 year old, whatever, like even me,for example, like I’ve had some pretty intense ways oftraining when I was younger and now I’m paying for it. I just, That’s the other thingI want to move into is like moving my focus to promoteexercise for longevity, because, coming from a spaceof being an Acrobat for five years and just literallyburning the candle on both ends, touring and performingthrough to 2:00 AM and then getting on a flight at 6:00AM going to the next country, doing the same show the nextday, that’s really cool.Yeah. Exciting. But you do that for five to10 years consistently and your body, it takes a toll on you. and that’s where like I’vehad Acrobat friends turn to me and say Oh man, Ijust like, when I’m 30, I want to be able to like,ride a bike without pain. And I’m like, Oh my gosh. yeah, exactly. That reaction. You’re just like, Oh mygosh, yes, like that’s, you think Oh, you’re an Acrobat. You’re so fit. You’re so strong. But that’s the reality is thatif you don’t take care of you along the way and learn topace yourself and not always have it be so intense andjust think that if you’re going so intensely, it justgoing to get stronger, you’re going to be Bulletproof.Unfortunately, that’s. Not exactly how we work. Yes. There are exceptionalcircumstances as elite athletes, as Olympians. They’re working withthe best of the best. They have accessto the best tools. For example, STEM, celltherapy, all that kind of stuff, repairing thecells, what kind of stuff? there’s lots of stuff outthere not to say it can’t be done, but just, yeah. When we are working onthis day to day level, we need to make sure thatwe’re not burning ourselves into the ground becausewe don’t burn ourself into the ground and get stronger Nicholas Dettinger: 100%. And I think Joe Rogan hasalso talked a lot about that type of mentality where,Don’t burn yourself out with this workout, but reallydon’t burn yourself out with this training block. Cause it’s just onetraining block out of a thousand you’re going to do. And.Really like when you’retrying to get super strong, obviously your focus isI want to get the highest amount of bench press, butif you have that mentality, this is someone from whohas done power lifting for three or four years. When I first startedweightlifting, the problem is that your body doesn’twant to get strong. Like it doesn’t like you puta lot of brunt force trauma, especially with the type ofmuscle fibers you activate with doing power liftingtype training, or even just.Low reps highway. It’s a lot of physical trauma. And so I’ve tried to changemy training as a go, along to go, you know what? I want to learn howto do kickboxing. I want to learn howto do rope climbing. Okay. And trying out those workouts,like I have a boxing bag where instead of trying to punches,what if I just kick it? And I realized, wow,core and leg workout.It’s actually sofunctional because you know what, it’s me kicking. _Ashletix_: Yeah, absolutely. Yes. That’s this is whereit’s functional movement at the end of the day. And that’s I remember teachinga workshop, in America and I had, she was a grandmathat attended it and it was a physical workshop wherewe were teaching people to stand on people’s heads anddo crazy stuff like that. and she was about 75 yearsold and she was just. Is anything. And I just pulled her asideat the end of the class. And I just said to her, canyou just can I have, I’ve been at some of your time,can you tell me, like, how do you maintain the state? Like you do,what’s the secret? And she said, it’s simple.I cross train. I don’t do too much ofone thing for too long. Nicholas Dettinger: that’sawesome right there. And I’ve actually startedto unintentionally do that in my training. If I look back on my traininglogs, cause I find that of the best thing to do is justwrite out your workout is that I’ve switched betweena block of, I want to do really well on the squat rack. And then I want to go tomore of the functional movement gymnastics, andthen I want to, and that’s also how Edo Portel doeshis movement style training? I don’t know if youhaven’t heard about him. he works with ConorMcGregor a lot. And, his philosophy isthe learning principle is the first two stages. That’s where you see, the mostamount of internal growth, with your, Proprioceptionyour neuroplasticity, your way to function as an athlete.And so if you’re alwayslearning those two new skills before you get to mastery,you will continually refine any movement you do, tobe more able to have the athletic ability you want. And honestly, that’shonestly cool. I’ve actually started totry to, and I’m going along right here, but I’ve startedto try and incorporate that philosophy with whatI call my brain training.And I have a video on thatcoming soon, where I’m not going to master French becauseI’m not putting the time into master French, but youknow what, 30 minutes a day I can passively learn it. And the only goal is,cause I watched a Ted ed video where it improvesthe crosstalk between the left and right hemisphere,because you’re learning how to communicate better. Why not that in there? Let’s just, let’sslot it in there. Why not get it? That’s _Ashletix_: fantastic. I love that. Like not saying the ideaof the goal is to not learn French it’s to activate thesetwo parts of my brand to get them talking a bit betterand why not pick something awesome, like learningFrench to be the catalyst that helps that I love that. And then one day you willgo to France and you’ll know some repertoire.So you’ve gotta make yourway around or work with some clients over there. Or maybe you’ll. A French client orbeing a new back awesome week, bring it on. Nicholas Dettinger: Yeah. , I’ll say Speaking French _Ashletix_: Speaking Frenchit’s you know, the, basically you have to repeat thesentence and I can hear the sentence, what coming with thespeaking is the hardest part. Nicholas Dettinger: And that’sreally the hardest part. _Ashletix_: thing. Yeah, because that alsobecomes a confidence thing and it’s our judgment on ourselfand pronunciation as well. But yeah, I think, Idefinitely wish that I was a bilingual kid growing uplearning lots of different languages because we absorbedthat so much better where my kids, but I lost fouradults learning languages. So good luck to us. Nicholas Dettinger: And, two,lastly, to wrap up this one, compared to where you areright now, With your health and fitness journey and not tosay where you want to be, but where you started, what wouldbe the message that you would give to yourself or even maybean audience member who watches you to not be afraid or no,I don’t want, I don’t want to switch to anyway, what wouldbe, I don’t want to give you any type of, this is how youhave to answer the question.I want to say how youwant to answer it. what would be thatmessage that you would give to yourself? Just starting out inyour health and fitness? _Ashletix_: Yeah. Wow. I think. Patience is the biggest one,I think because I’ve come from a space of one, I thinksomething so immediately, and being in a sport whereit’s about, the next step or achieving the next move. So you can get tothe next level of progressing like that. And there was always atimeline on it, by six months in this year, you have to beat level four by six months, you have to be level five. it was. Or progressive. And you got, attached tothat feeling of achieving. I think that, coming intoadulthood and especially with careers and businesses,it’s not, it doesn’t have to be as steady not to saythat it can’t, but just to remain patient becausethere’s this crazy thing called life happening as well.And it’s going to be upsand downs and it’s going to be rollercoasters and tojust, accept that you are human at the end of the day. And then that’s. It’s going to come with a lotof elements that you are also figuring out along the way,like your emotional telomere intelligence, communicatingwith people, just taking care of yourself as well. but just remain patient. and I think my two otherpoints would be to not compare yourself to others. and this is something that Ihave been guilty of as well, but I think that what I’velearned from going through phases of that is that.That just sucks your timeand energy, and it takes you out of your own lane. So for me, I’ve spenttimes where I have been comparing myself to others,but it hasn’t really given me anything in the end. And in fact, it’s justhindered me because, I think when we start tocompare ourselves to others, it’s a pivotalpoint in our life where we’re searching for answers. And I think that when wetry to seek those answers in someone else that just sendsus a stray, just like you were about to lead me astraywith the question and the answers and give me a bit ofa direction, So I think that, yeah, comparing yourself toothers can lead you astray. Whereas if you just sit andyou focus near in line, you can say, okay, I’m willingto face this difficulty head on, but to seek the answerswithin myself or from silence, or to get a mentor tailoredto me, for example, I think that’s going to better serveyou than just comparing yourself to someone else.Cause that cansend you astray. And then I think the,probably just the last point is just, yeah, justto enjoy your journey. It sounds fun cliche, buthonestly like it’s the day to day that matters. And it’s how youfeel right now. It’s not how you’re goingto feel when you achieve something or how you’regoing to feel at the end, when you’ve got X amountof, clients or followers or friends, whatever it is, it’show you’re feeling day to day. And if you can get that down,Pat, then you’re going to have a better overall experience. I can be a bitphilosophical and a bit deep sometimes, but yeah. Nicholas Dettinger:Thats where is this things come from, right? I liked the not comparingbecause, comparing. Yeah, everyone does it.And everyone does it. that’s probably the reasonwhy social media is so big, because you can say,Oh, I got a little bit taste of their lifestyle bycomparing it to what I do. And I feel better watching it. but when you’re talkingabout, your business, are you talking about, educationand you’re like that guy’s grades are higher than mine. That guy’s makingmore money than me. That girl is fartherin her certification. It really doesn’t understandwhere you are right now. No dear of theirbackground as well. So you have no idea how theygot to where they were, Yeah. Yeah. Where you are right nowis a story of itself. And you have toappreciate that. And especially withthe videos, I have to appreciate that. That was the best Icould do at that time. And sometimes during thevideo, I was like, Oh, you know what guys and girls,I got the best video that I can make right now. but next month I’m goingto have a better one. So keep watching. _Ashletix_: Yeah. And that’s what I love. Like just the smilethat comes across your face then, in acceptingwhere you’re at is fine.There’s no one sayingthat you can’t do that. That, and even if therewas, you don’t have to listen to them, like youare you, and that’s what matters and your journeyyou’re in control of that. and that’s. to talk about all videosthat, whether deleting them, we’ll keeping them, forexample, like you should be so proud that, and that’spart of your own evolution. You’re in journey andaccepting that you are human and you’re notsome machine that’s just churning out content, likea robot, like you’re human. And guys, I’m workingon this awesome piece. It’s going to take me alittle bit longer, but it’s going to be worth it. And it’s Ooh. Yeah. That makes me go yes, likeyour Nicholas, like you’re human being and there’scare there’s a care factor.That’s empathy. And you’re human. Like you’re, so you’rebreaking down those barriers rather than just beingsome content machine that people like, Oh yeah. Every, every day I’mgoing to get something new from this person. I know that tomorrowwe’ll get something else. So I’ll just scrollpast, it’s Oh, cool. Like how’s Nicholas doing? He completed this video. Hell yeah, I’mgoing to watch it. Nicholas Dettinger: Yeah. And, that’s what I want all mysubscribers to be right there. I’m okay. I know it’s like the wholemarshmallow test where, the kids, do they eat the cookie? Do they wait another whileto get another cookie? It’s like the samething where, when it’s a really good video, it’sa really good movie.You’ll wait to watch itbecause, that it’s worth the wait and, I reallyappreciate you being on the podcast and I’ll work. We’re gonna a little bitlong in our 20, when, when I originally scripted, Iwas like, Oh, we’ll get this done in 45 minutes. But I knew that wasjust a free ball. And I reallyappreciate your time. And last question is,would you come on again? Cause I really enjoyedthe conversation. _Ashletix_: Oh, my goodness. Yes. absolutely. I feel like we’re justhaving a chat and we can bounce so many differentideas off of each other.And I think it’s, props toyou for doing the work and making this into a podcast. yes. Nicholas Dettinger: Yeah. thank you for your time. And that has been thefirst episode of don’t work out just play..